X
Lost password?

Don't have an account?
Gain Access Now

X

Receive free daily analysis

NFL
NBA
NHL
NASCAR
CFB
MLB
MMA
PGA
ESPORTS
BETTING

Already have an account? Log In

X

Forgot Password


POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

Expert Advice
Articles & Tools
Import Your Leagues
Draft Rankings
Draft Simulator
Enter League Settings
Value Picks
Compare Any Players
News and Alerts

Todd Gurley - Top Fantasy RB in the Land?

Todd Gurley was the 10th overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft. At the time, Gurley was hailed as the best back to come out of college since Adrian Peterson. Gurley was drafted to be an every-down, featured back, and is one of the few backs in the NFL to live up to that designation.

According to the snap count through the first three weeks of the year, Gurley is one of seven running backs who receives a vast majority of his team’s snaps weekly.  This alone shows that Gurley is likely to be a top back as the sheer volume will lead to solid numbers.

Beyond that, Gurley proved himself once again with his performance on Thursday where he racked up three touchdowns and 149 yards from scrimmage. Is it possible he bounces back from being a dud last year to the top RB in all of fantasy football, where he was projected to be all along?

Be sure to check all of our fantasy football rankings for 2025:

 

Why is this year different?

Gurley was the undeniable bell cow back for the Rams last year, but barely classified as an RB2. What changed so drastically in an off-season to turn him into a top-five back?  The Rams have changed their entire coaching staff, leading to a new offensive regime, and with it a new sense of creativity that has allowed Gurley to compete at the level that he is accustomed to.  To give you an appreciation for how bad Jeff Fisher was, four of the 12 worst statistical seasons by a bell cow running back (minimum 275 carries) in NFL history were coached by Fisher. Fisher refused to adjust to new defensive schemes, and it consistently produced mediocrity on offense at best.

To suit a young team, the Rams hired one of the youngest coaches in NFL history. New head coach Sean Mcvay has been the Redskins’ offensive coordinator since 2014, during which the Redskins had the best offensive year in their franchise history.  Furthermore, former Falcons QB coach Matt LaFleur has taken over the offensive coordinator duties.  Continuing with the pattern of gathering the best coaches in the NFL, the defense will now be called by possibly the greatest DC ever in Wade Phillips.  This coaching staff turn around has immediately reinvigorated the Rams leading to a solid offensive start, Jared Goff has already increased his quarterback rating by 40 points (63.6 vs. 103.2), and Gurley’s performance has rebounded with it. Finally, the Rams have improved their bottom tier offensive line with stalwart left tackle, Andrew Whitworth.  Even though he hasn’t yet played up to his top of the league standards just yet, he’s a decided upgrade over former second overall pick Greg Robinson.  The offense as a whole has changed, and teams can no longer stack the box like they did in 2016.  Without having to put the entire team on his back, Gurley has a chance to play like we all want him to.

 

Why will he produce as a top-five RB?

To answer this question, we must look through who are currently the top twelve projected backs.  Since David Johnson is out for much of the fantasy season, along with Howard and Murray largely losing their featured back status, we can safely deduce they won’t be in the top 12.  This leaves: Le’veon Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, LeSean McCoy, Melvin Gordon, Jay Ajayi, Ty Montgomery, Carlos Hyde, and Devonta Freeman as the viable backs that could achieve top-five status.

Freeman has a significant time share with Tevin Coleman which will lead to lapses in production that will likely drop him into the back half of the top 12 this year.  Carlos Hyde is in a horrible situation with a schedule that’s even more difficult than the Rams.  The 49ers have just begun their rebuild, and general manager John Lynch said it best in his recent statement, “I’m sorry to say that our roster just isn’t where it needs to be to overcome mistakes. We have to play near-perfect.” Hyde can’t play perfectly on an every week basis, and that’s what he’d need to do to be a top-five back. Ty Montgomery is a part of the bittersweet reality of being in a prolific offense.  The Packers have numerous options to go to in every part of the field.  The percentage of their offense isn’t devoted enough to him to produce a true workhorse.

 

Why does Gurley beat out Ajayi and Gordon?

To answer this question, the play styles and opportunities of the three players must be compared. Jay Ajayi has the possibility to hit more than 300 carries this year and in his first game he averaged over 4.3 yards per carry on a whopping 28 carries. Unfortunately, Ajayi was only targeted twice all game, which only amounted to two catches for four yards. If this is a reflection on how Gase and the Dolphins plan on using Jay Ajayi, he can be penciled in for a few major games where he underperforms. This has much to do with the Dolphins’ defense. According to ESPN’s stats, the Dolphins were ranked 29th in overall defense last year, they allowed the third-most yards per game on the ground and were below average at stopping the pass.  Things haven’t gotten better; first round pick Charles Harris was manhandled in his first game, and second pick Raekwon McMillan tore his ACL earlier this year and won’t be any help. With Lawrence Timmons leaving the team, the Dolphins may have a bottom-five defense again this year. This means that any team with sufficient firepower will blow past the Dolphins which will render Ajayi nearly useless. Furthermore, in PPR formats Jay’s lack of targets will undercut his weekly upside and will have to rely on touchdown production to jump into the top ten running backs. There are just too many factors working against Ajayi for him to be a top-five back this year.

Gordon is a bit more difficult to explain away. To do this we need to look at the production of the two backs. Even in what many would call a worse offensive situation, Gurley has out-performed Gordon across the board.

The Chargers haven’t built enough protection for Rivers and Gordon. The Chargers' offensive line is even worse than the Rams', as their average player grade on their line according to Profootballfocus.com is 48.34, compared to the near 58 grade the Rams achieved thus far. Neither of these scores are good, but one is absolutely putrid while the other is only below average. It would make sense that both lines could improve throughout the season as they gain more cohesion and understanding of their teammates, but the Rams are ahead and are on pace to maintain that standard.

Down to brass tacks, here’s a table comparing the two backs across all the pertinent factors over the first two weeks.

Standards (per game average) Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon
Rushes per game 17.5 13.5
Yards per carry 3.66 2.48
Targets per game 5 7
Catch Rate 80% 85%
Yards per catch 13.5 7.5
Percentage of team targets 20+% 19.4%
TDs per game 2.5 1.5

 

On Thursday, Gurley went on to outdo or maintain each of the scores above, with 28 rushes, four yards per carry, seven targets, 11.2 yards per catch, a 70+% catch percentage, 25% of the team’s targets and three touch downs. Gurley isn’t slowing down, he’s only getting better as his situation improves.

On a comparison basis, the numbers speak loud and clear, Gurley is the superior back.  Gordon may get more targets currently, but as Goff becomes more comfortable with the offense and is asked to throw more, Gurley will get more receptions with it.  This is clear as in the first two games Gurley was targeted more often as a percentage of the overall throws than Gordon was. Gurley averaged just over 20% of Goff’s targets. Out of 49 targets, 1/7th have gone to Sammy Watkins, 24.5% to Cooper Kupp, four to Everett, and four to Higbee = 16.3% (together).  Over the first two games Gurley was the second most targeted player on the team and has been targeted more than all the tight ends combined.  Goff is only throwing around 26 balls a game currently, this is bound to increase throughout the season, and Gurley’s productivity with it. Although these players are similar in age, play style and production there are a couple major factors that undercut Gordon’s position.

After the third game, Gurley not only is a 20+ carry back, but also leads the Rams in targets and receptions where he averages more than 8.2 yards per target and nearly 10.8 yards per reception.

If Gurley can maintain a substantial fraction of this production, it will be hard to argue with the idea of him being a top five running back.

 

More 2017 Fantasy Football & ADP Analysis




POPULAR FANTASY TOOLS

Expert Advice
Articles & Tools
Import Your Leagues
Draft Rankings
Draft Simulator
Enter League Settings
Value Picks
Compare Any Players
News and Alerts

REAL-TIME FANTASY NEWS

Eugenio Suárez4 hours ago

Eugenio Suarez Hits Go-Ahead Grand Slam Tuesday
A.J. Puk4 hours ago

Earns First Save Of Season Tuesday
Michael King4 hours ago

Fans 11 In Five Shutout Innings Tuesday
Christian Yelich4 hours ago

Hits First Homer Of Season, Steals Base Tuesday
Evan Engram5 hours ago

Sean Payton Excited About Evan Engram In Joker Role
Anthony Bender5 hours ago

Earns First Save Of Season Tuesday
Robert Hassell III5 hours ago

Has Three-Hit Day At Triple-A
Thomas Harrington5 hours ago

Hit Hard In MLB Debut Tuesday
Gunnar Henderson5 hours ago

Hits Solo Homer In Triple-A Rehab Game Tuesday
Marcelo Mayer5 hours ago

Hits First Home Run At Triple-A
Caleb Williams5 hours ago

To Spend More Time Working Under Center
Tom Hoge5 hours ago

Looking To Build Off Strong Performance At The PLAYERS Championship
Zebby Matthews5 hours ago

Twirls Five Shutout Innings At Triple-A
Daniel Jones5 hours ago

Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones To Split First-Team Reps This Offseason
Terry McLaurin6 hours ago

Commanders Interested In Extending Terry McLaurin
Rashee Rice6 hours ago

Expected To Be Ready For Training Camp
Hurston Waldrep6 hours ago

Fans Seven In Win At Triple-A
Garrett Wilson6 hours ago

Jets Plan To Get Garrett Wilson The Ball "As Much As Possible"
Keaton Mitchell6 hours ago

Ravens Have High Hopes For Keaton Mitchell
Angel Genao6 hours ago

Dealing With Shoulder Injury
Derrick Henry6 hours ago

John Harbaugh Wants Ravens To Extend Derrick Henry
Christian McCaffrey6 hours ago

Is Healthy
Clarke Schmidt6 hours ago

To Return April 15 Or 16
Shane Baz7 hours ago

Strikes Out 10
Mike Tauchman7 hours ago

Begins Rehab Assignment
Wyatt Langford7 hours ago

Launches Another Homer
Nathan Eovaldi8 hours ago

Throws Complete Game Shutout
Michael Petersen8 hours ago

Traded To Atlanta
Matt Fitzpatrick8 hours ago

Looking For Consistency At Valero Texas Open
Corey Conners8 hours ago

Continues Strong Form Ahead Of Valero Texas Open
Patrick Cantlay8 hours ago

Eyeing Victory At Valero Texas Open
Reynaldo López9 hours ago

Reynaldo Lopez To Undergo Right-Shoulder Surgery
Gary Woodland9 hours ago

Showing Great Form Ahead Of Valero Texas Open
Akshay Bhatia9 hours ago

Aiming For Repeat At Valero Texas Open
Alejandro Tosti9 hours ago

A Volatile Choice At TPC San Antonio
NFL9 hours ago

Tush Push Unlikely To Be Banned For 2025 Season
Xavier Legette9 hours ago

Dave Canales Compares Xavier Legette To DK Metcalf
Brett de Geus9 hours ago

Phillies Claim Brett de Geus Off Waivers From Marlins
New York Giants9 hours ago

Ty Summers Re-Signs With New York
Nick Mears9 hours ago

Beginning Rehab Assignment At Triple-A
Sam Ehlinger10 hours ago

Signs One-Year Deal With Denver
Guerschon Yabusele10 hours ago

Out Against Knicks
Karl-Anthony Towns10 hours ago

Sits Out Tuesday's Game
Arizona Cardinals10 hours ago

Calais Campbell Returns To Arizona
Jevon Carter10 hours ago

Ruled Out Tuesday
Dalen Terry10 hours ago

Unavailable Against Raptors
Julian Phillips10 hours ago

Out On Tuesday
Jalen Smith10 hours ago

Available Against Raptors
Lonzo Ball10 hours ago

Still Out On Tuesday
Kevin Huerter10 hours ago

Cleared For Tuesday's Matchup
Josh Giddey11 hours ago

Will Play On Tuesday
Dalano Banton11 hours ago

Starting Against The Hawks
Royce O'Neale11 hours ago

Unavailable Against Bucks
Jerami Grant11 hours ago

Out Again On Tuesday
Bradley Beal11 hours ago

Out On Tuesday
Ron Holland II11 hours ago

Tagged With A One-Game Suspension Tuesday
Anfernee Simons11 hours ago

Ruled Out Versus The Hawks
Trae Young11 hours ago

Officially Available Tuesday
Marcus Sasser11 hours ago

Suspended For One Game On Tuesday
Giannis Antetokounmpo11 hours ago

Will Play On Tuesday
Jimmy Snuggerud11 hours ago

Ready For NHL Debut Tuesday
Isaiah Stewart11 hours ago

Suspended For Two Games On Tuesday
Jacob Trouba11 hours ago

Set To Rejoin Ducks Lineup Tuesday
Jonathan Kuminga11 hours ago

Ruled Out On Tuesday
Troy Terry11 hours ago

On Track To Play Tuesday
Jaylen Brown11 hours ago

Questionable Versus Miami
Jonathan Marchessault12 hours ago

Remains Out Against Blue Jackets
Alex Laferriere12 hours ago

Expected To Return On Tuesday
Luke Schenn12 hours ago

A Game-Time Decision Tuesday
Dante Fabbro12 hours ago

Returns Against Predators
Detroit Lions14 hours ago

Alim McNeill Could Miss Start Of Regular Season
Tennessee Titans14 hours ago

Justin Hardee Sr. Returning To Titans
Washington Commanders14 hours ago

Brandon Coleman Moving To Right Tackle For Commanders
Raheem Blackshear15 hours ago

Returning To Carolina
Kirk Cousins15 hours ago

Not Expected To Attend Voluntary Offseason Training
NFL15 hours ago

NFL Ownership Votes To Move Kickoff Touchbacks To 35-Yard Line
Olli Määttä15 hours ago

Olli Maatta A Game-Time Call On Tuesday
Jordan Greenway15 hours ago

Remains Sidelined On Tuesday
Dallas Cowboys15 hours ago

Cowboys Willing To Make Micah Parsons The Highest-Paid Non-QB
Jordan Staal15 hours ago

Doubtful For Wednesday
Matt Roy15 hours ago

Not Traveling With Team
Josh Norris15 hours ago

Not Traveling With The Team On Tuesday
Brady Tkachuk16 hours ago

Not Playing On Tuesday
Jordan Spieth17 hours ago

Needs To Find Consistency At TPC San Antonio
Jake Knapp18 hours ago

Making First Appearance At Valero Texas Open
Michael Kim18 hours ago

Looking To Find The Magic Again In San Antonio
Tommy Fleetwood18 hours ago

Is Nearly A Must-Play At Valero Texas Open
Tony Finau18 hours ago

Hoping For Better Approach Play In San Antonio
Eric Cole18 hours ago

Trending In Right Direction Ahead Of Valero
Casey DeSmith22 hours ago

Sharp In Monday's Victory
Mason Marchment22 hours ago

Tallies Two Helpers On Monday
Adam Klapka22 hours ago

Tallies Two Points In Shootout Victory
Ivan Fedotov22 hours ago

Sharp Against Nashville
Matvei Michkov22 hours ago

Continues Hot Stretch On Monday
Luke Hughes22 hours ago

Scores Goal, Adds Assist In Victory
Sam Stevens1 day ago

Enjoys Nice Result In Houston
PGA1 day ago

J.T. Poston Seeks To Contend At Valero Texas Open
Denny McCarthy1 day ago

Keeps Making Cuts But Needs To Make More Putts
Brian Harman1 day ago

Off To A Subpar 2025 So Far
Ilya Samsonov1 day ago

Nursing An Upper-Body Injury
Tomas Hertl1 day ago

To Sit Out At Least One More Week
Ryan Preece1 day ago

Has Three Straight Top-10 Finishes For First Time In His Career
NASCAR1 day ago

Bubba Wallace After Third-Place Finish At Martinsville: "What a Great Day"
Todd Gilliland1 day ago

Has Mistake-Free Day At Martinsville, Grabs Another Top-10 Finish
Brandon Moreno2 days ago

Wins Back-To-Back Fights
Steve Erceg2 days ago

Losses Third Consecutive Fight
Drew Dober2 days ago

Gets Knocked Out At UFC Mexico City
Manuel Torres2 days ago

Gets Back In The Win Column
Harry Hall2 days ago

Bounces Back In Houston Last Week
CJ Vergara2 days ago

Gets Submitted
Ryan Fox2 days ago

Showing Improvement Heading Into The Valero Texas Open
Édgar Cháirez2 days ago

Edgar Chairez Gets Submission Win At UFC Mexico City
Vince Morales2 days ago

Drops Decision At UFC Mexico City
Raul Rosas Jr.2 days ago

Gets Decision Win At UFC Mexico City
Saimon Oliveira2 days ago

Still Winless In The UFC
David Martinez2 days ago

Wins His UFC Debut
Kevin Borjas2 days ago

Earns His First UFC Win
Ronaldo Rodríguez2 days ago

Ronaldo Rodriguez Suffers His First UFC Loss
Joel Dahmen2 days ago

Scores Top-20 Finish At Texas Children's Houston Open
Jacob Bridgeman2 days ago

Had Some Rest Heading Into The Valero
Christopher Bell2 days ago

Powers His Way To A Second-Place Finish At Martinsville
Chase Elliott2 days ago

Strong Martinsville Performance Ends With A Top-Five Finish
Kyle Larson2 days ago

Collects A Top-Five Finish At Martinsville
William Byron2 days ago

Places 22nd After Struggles At Martinsville
Joey Logano2 days ago

Claims His First 2025 Top-10 Finish After Up-And-Down Performance
Tyler Reddick2 days ago

Fails To Place In The Top 10 At Martinsville
Denny Hamlin2 days ago

Silences Doubters After Crew-Chief Change
Ty Gibbs2 days ago

Earns Best 2025 Finish At Martinsville Despite Failing Cool Suit
Ross Chastain2 days ago

Has A Great Day At Martinsville
Chase Briscoe2 days ago

Has Solid Run At Martinsville
Erik Jones2 days ago

Disqualified At Martinsville For Weight Violation
Josh Berry3 days ago

Has Top-10 Upside At Martinsville
Joey Logano3 days ago

Don't Overlook Joey Logano This Weekend
Ryan Preece3 days ago

Could Get First Three-Race Top-10 Streak Of His Career
Chase Elliott3 days ago

Looking To Continue Great Runs At Martinsville
Christopher Bell3 days ago

Wins Pole At Martinsville, But Can He Stay Up There?
Ryan Blaney3 days ago

Fast In Practice But Skeptical About Car
Denny Hamlin3 days ago

New Crew Chief Has Terrible Martinsville Record
Steve Erceg5 days ago

Looks To Get Back In The Win Column
Brandon Moreno5 days ago

A Favorite At UFC Mexico City
Manuel Torres5 days ago

Set For Co-Main Event
Drew Dober5 days ago

An Underdog At UFC Mexico City
Joe Pyfer5 days ago

Looks To Win Back-To-Back Fights
Kelvin Gastelum5 days ago

Set For Middleweight Matchup
Vince Morales5 days ago

In Dire Need Of Victory
Raul Rosas Jr.5 days ago

Looks To Extend His Win Streak
Saimon Oliveira5 days ago

Looks For His First UFC Win
RANKINGS
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
OF
SP
RP

RANKINGS

QB
RB
WR
TE
K
DEF

MORE RECENT ARTICLES

 
Tyreek Hill - Fantasy Football Rankings, NFL Injury News, DFS Lineup Picks

Three Aging Fantasy Football Players To Sell In Dynasty Leagues

It's hard to always know when to sell off your aging fantasy football players. Often, it's also difficult to accept that it's better to move on from a player when he's coming off a productive season and still has a lot left in the tank. But I believe it's better to be a year early […]


J.J. McCarthy - Fantasy Football Rankings, NFL Draft Sleepers

Five Fantasy Football Superflex Quarterback Breakouts, Draft Targets (2025)

If you’ve ever played in a Superflex fantasy football league, then you know how important quarterbacks are in this format. The ability to start multiple stud quarterbacks can carry you to a Superflex title. Unfortunately, finding two such players isn’t so easy. All the top signal-callers come off draft boards first, and that makes it […]


Omarion Hampton - College Football Rankings, NCAA CFB DFS Lineup Picks - NFL Draft

Ideal Landing Spots For The Top 12 Fantasy Football Rookies - 2025 NFL Draft

Then, the NFL Draft continues to inch closer and closer. This is a very interesting class, with a handful of players who could be stars in the NFL and reshape fantasy football leagues going forward. Here are the ideal landing spots for the top 12 fantasy football rookies. These picks exist in conversation with each […]


Jalen Coker - Fantasy Football Rankings, Draft Sleepers, Waiver Wire Pickups

Eight Best Ball Late Round Value Fantasy Football Players To Target For 2025

Fantasy football is the most popular game in all of sports. It has gone from a paper-and-pen game to a multi-million dollar-a-year one. While redraft leagues are the most popular form of fantasy football, best ball leagues are quickly gaining steam. The best part of best ball leagues is the ability to draft thousands of […]


Abdul Carter - Fantasy Football Rankings, Draft Sleepers, NFL Injury News

2025 NFL Draft Rankings: Top 10 Fantasy Football Edge Rusher Prospects

Edge rusher is the most important, most coveted, and most highly-paid position on defense in the NFL. It stands to reason that the most important position in the entire game being quarterback, and by a wide margin, means the most important position on defense are the players that are tasked with disrupting opposing QBs as […]


Brock Purdy - Fantasy Football Rankings, NFL Injury News, DFS Picks

Brock Purdy Dynasty Fantasy Football Outlook and Trade Value

Despite becoming the all-time leading passer for the Iowa State Cyclones, Brock Purdy wasn't a highly touted prospect due to his perceived lack of athleticism. The 49ers picked him with the final pick of the 2022 NFL Draft, but Mr. Irrelevant quickly proved everyone wrong. In his first two years, he started in back-to-back NFC […]


Michael Florio's Football Show - Podcast RotoBaller Network

Florio's Football Show: Scouting NFL Draft Prospects!

Michael F Florio goes over some of the top prospects from this years NFL Draft. Florio talks about what he looks for when watching prospect tape and explains what traits translate best to the NFL level. Be sure to also tune into RotoBaller Radio on SiriusXM (SiriusXM channel 87) on Sundays from 6-7 am. You can […]


Najee Harris - Fantasy Football Rankings, NFL Injury News, DFS Lineup Picks

Dynasty Fantasy Football Buy or Sell: Najee Harris, Rico Dowdle, Jordan Mason

One year ago, we discussed the futures of Josh Jacobs, Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, and Aaron Jones as those free agents found new homes. This year's headliners are Najee Harris, Rico Dowdle, and Jordan Mason. Not quite the same. Still, with every transaction come implications for dynasty fantasy football rosters across the globe. Below, we […]


Romeo Doubs - Fantasy Football Rankings, Draft Sleepers, NFL Injury News

Early 2025 Fantasy Football Sleepers: Undervalued NFC Draft Targets

While the 2025 fantasy football redraft season is still several months away, there is no such thing as being too prepared for your fantasy draft. Fantasy football is year-round, even for those who only play in redraft leagues. The landscape of fantasy football will change between today and the start of redraft season, with the […]


Detroit Lions Defense, Aidan Hutchinson - Fantasy Football DST Rankings, Streamers, IDP Sleepers

2025 Fantasy Football IDP Sleepers: Five Draft Targets

It's notably difficult to identify sleepers in fantasy football IDP leagues. The skill of the players in question is very important, but situation also plays a large factor, as does a recent history of injuries. Rather than bucketing them into groups, it's better to analyze each one individually, look at where they are in terms […]


Ashton Jeanty - College Football Rankings, NCAA CFB DFS Lineup Picks

Ashton Jeanty's Top Potential Landing Spots For 2025: Fantasy Football NFL Draft Outlook

Boise State running back Ashton Jeanty will enter the 2025 NFL Draft as one of the best prospects in the class. Jeanty just ran for 2,601 yards and 29 touchdowns across 14 games this past college season. Those 2,601 rush yards were the second-most of all-time in FBS history, only behind Barry Sanders's 2,628 rush yards […]


Bhaysul Tuten - NFL Draft Prospects, Rookie Rankings

2025 Fantasy Football Rookie Mock Draft: 12-Team, Single QB

The 2025 NFL Combine has now been completed, so it's worth doing another mock draft to see where everyone stands after the league's pre-draft testing event. Overall, there were a few surprises, but the order of many players will remain the same. The mental domain of the original rankings, which have been fairly set in […]


Rashid Shaheed - Fantasy Football Rankings, Draft Sleepers, NFL Injury News

2025 Fantasy Football Sleepers: Later-Career Breakout Candidates

Typically, most NFL players break out in the early parts of their careers. Between the ages of 20 and 25 is when you expect to see the majority of players have their first big season. Some waste no time and put together excellent years while they're rookies, while some need more time to develop. These […]